morbane: A cute, fierce Raichu with a light saber (Reychu)
[personal profile] morbane
Hello all,

Thanks again to those who took part in the most recent round of Concrit-X. I'd be interest to know if anything in particular struck you (as a good idea/thing you saw others doing, as something that could be improved), or your general impressions.

My personal notes:
  • I saw some people curating sets of their works on AO3 for concrit: for example, by searching on a time period and then linking to the result of that search, or by tagging all relevant works with a specific tag. I wouldn't want to require people to do that, but I thought that was a great and helpful idea.

  • Related to above, there's a canonised tag on AO3, "Constructive Criticism Welcome", that I tag most of my works with. I recommend it as a searchable tag if you want to encourage people to give concrit in general. That said, I have rarely and arguably never received concrit without directly soliciting it, probably because concrit is hard work.

  • I said I'd run this in November or February, then April, then I started it mid-April. That's not great. I'm sorry about that. Currently, to run this, I need: a) some time to work on any sign-up suggestions people have made in a previous round; b) an empty weekend to work on matching; c) a relatively under-committed period in the following couple of weeks. I'd like to tentatively target August again for the next round.

  • Last time, I noted that some people accidentally left concrit in the "wrong" place - ie, on AO3 when someone had requested Dreamwidth, or vice versa. I added extra reminders about that this time, and as far as I saw, the only person who erred that way this time was.... me. It's easy to do. The only thing I can think of to make it less easy to do would be to add the following reminder: if you would prefer to get comments by email/PM or on the platform the story is published on (AO3/ff.net/etc), you can make a request post that has comments turned off entirely.

  • Speaking of, I really appreciate people being willing to join this comm as members and make Dreamwidth posts. I think I'm going to continue that (as well as offering "I post for you" / "stay private") ways of signing up, because it's so much easier for me to keep track of, but would be keen to know if there is something I could do to make that easier.


Now


If you don't want any more crit on your posts, you can:
-take the "open for concrit" tag off them
-ask me to take that tag off them
-ask me to hide the post

If you said you would unscreen comments on May 15, please unscreen comments. Check with me if you're not sure how.

The following post is a "Madness" post round, where anyone can ask for concrit but you are not guaranteed any.
morbane: A cute, fierce Raichu with a light saber (Reychu)
[personal profile] morbane
To everyone who gave this a go: thank you so much! Constructive criticism is not a new thing, but running this event was new to me. Thank you for being patient with me and bringing a lot of thought and generosity.

I think everyone has received their 2+ pieces of feedback, but please tell me if I'm wrong so I can fix that. This round is roughly over, but it's never quite over as long as people who signed up are still interested in feedback. See the open-for-concrit tag. You can take that tag off your own post any time, or ask me to.


What worked / Improvements

How did this work for you, and how might you have liked it to work instead?

I have a few notes on my thoughts. Responses or completely different thoughts are welcome.

Mod notes
  • Hand-matching. I made this more complicated for myself than I had to, and started to contemplate AO3 matching or google forms, but by the end of matching, I was fond of hand-matching again. Sending out assignments gradually worked for me. I think the sign-up form was overcomplicated. One question I would definitely include if making a similar form in future is "Do you want to read smut? Do you want to read non-smut? Do you want to read both smut and non-smut?" I know people are willing to read outside their comfort zone sometimes, and I appreciate that, but porn/not porn was a fairly frequent divider in sign-ups.

  • Platform for sign-ups. I think there are benefits to individual Dreamwidth posts. How did you find them? I think the process of people submitting a sign-up, then me approving them and telling people to make their own post, was a bit cumbersome for everyone and could be improved. For example, I could just set posts to moderated and approve them.

  • Platform for concrit. I think the principle of "post where your recipient asks you to" generally works. I was very grateful for people who posted in places that weren't DW comments and then promptly told me where they'd posted - that was really helpful. Commenting on the recipient's DW post to say "Note for mod, I have posted where asked" or whatever would probably work too, and be a little easier to keep track of.

  • Platforms in general. I discovered I am woefully unfamiliar with fanfiction.net. I also noted that my instructions on posting to Dreamwidth were lacking - ie, you have to join the community to post to it. Some general notes on platform features might be a helpful resource - maybe?

  • The concrit guide. This was meant as a starting point if you were stuck or uncertain, rather than strict rules. I'm not sure how helpful it was - for one thing, my impression is that everyone taking part this round already had grounding in and confidence about how to give feedback. Is it needed at all? Improvements welcome.

  • Replying to concrit. Does there need to be any mod guidance about that? I saw skill and thoughtfulness in giving concrit, but I also got the impression people were pleased or relieved to be told their thoughts had been useful. I'm not going to make a "you must reply" policy, but I'm happy to frame it as a normal thing, or make suggestions about how - "Try not to argue with your concrit giver, they can't change their first impression..."

  • Fandoms. This came up, so: I know this would be exponentially more useful to some people if matching on fandoms, but I don't think that's possible for a small event drawing from multifandom participants.


Btw, thank you specifically to the two people who signed up to get assignments only - that made things a lot easier for me as a mod.


Madness

I was thinking I'd make this post and leave it a few days, then put up a single Madness post where people could comment requesting feedback. No new requests after X date. Keen? Tell me! And if so, please check back.

Next round

How do people feel about another round in November, or if not that, February, on similar principles but with a longer assignment period?

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